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rnelson
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posted 01-10-2008 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Here is another.

Chart 1 page 1
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Chart 1 page 2
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Chart 1 page 3
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Chart 2 page 1
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Chart 2 page 2
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Chart 2 page 3
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Chart 3 page 1
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Chart 3 page 2
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Chart 3 page 3
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stat
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posted 01-10-2008 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
Spot totals


+4 -2

DI

Was this guy being obstinent on chart 2---looks like he was engaging in behavorial cm's, but typically after being confrionted with crude countermeasures, the following charts (in this case chart 3) would be punctuated with higher levels of arousal across the board----but not in this case. I smell fish, and I bet your report stated as much.

What happened on chart 2? Did this sex offender "expose" something or some behavior to you? lol
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rnelson
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posted 01-10-2008 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry Ch2p2 was the wrong graphic. Fixed now.

He was moving at the onset of chart 2. I probably admonished him (gently and professionally, of course), but didn't mark it.

r

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ebvan
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posted 01-10-2008 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
Stat, did you receive my reply to your email?

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stat
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posted 01-10-2008 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
Yes Ebvan, thanks for the speedy shot.

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sackett
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posted 01-10-2008 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
Ray,

I have him -1 / -6 Clearly DI.


Jim

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Buster
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posted 01-10-2008 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message
Nelson, when you get a chance I want you to look at a chart of mine with a HUGE cardio, It doesn't look like a move, but it is in a relevant and looks to big to be true.

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Barry C
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posted 01-10-2008 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Okay Jim, I'm getting concerned now. I have the same score - with maybe a -7 in the second spot, but at this point why squint over the pneumos?

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ebvan
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posted 01-10-2008 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
I scored -1 -7 DI (without a pencil) But I also think there may be something you're not sharing with us about what occurred between chart 1 and chart 2 that would result in a physiological or behavioral change in your subject.

Don't keep us in suspense for too long.

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rnelson
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posted 01-10-2008 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
This is a single issue exam.

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OSS-3 gives an SR result.

Buster,

you can email me anytime,

or my fax # is
720 554 7677

The charts I posted yesterday have large cardio responses that make me suspicious. But the movement channel is working and shows nothing, plus the pneumos are fairly consistent. I'm doubtful someone could manufacture those cardio responses through mental efforts, but I don't really know.

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rnelson
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posted 01-10-2008 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Ebvan,

No tricks.

Its just a DI test.

The two questions are nearly identical.

He was moving at the onset of chart 2, then stopped. I think some of the tracing adjustment flags may not have printed


These two are rather easy to score, though this one is interesting because of the total/spot differences.

I'll look around to see if I have an uglier test somewhere. Just to see if we tend to disagree more.

r

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Taylor
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posted 01-10-2008 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
-1 -5 = -6 DI

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Bob
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posted 01-10-2008 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob     Edit/Delete Message
Ray,

My scoring (with a 3 pt scale)
RQ4: 0
RQ6: -7

I believe something very suspicious is going on at Chrt 2 following SRQ 2 with the blood pressure arousal and continues throughout the chart. Cht 3 seems suspicious to me too, from the declining BP and may be a reversal of what he did on Cht 2. I would not rule out countermeasures. Where is Gordon Barland when you need him?

Even though movement sensors are employed, Do not discount unobserved movements can still be occurring. In the past I have instructed clients to move the rght/ left arms and then the rght/ left legs in a secretive covert manner as part of my acquaintance test. More than once I have seen them move an arm or leg covertly without detection by the movement sensors (5 independant sensors being recorded). Ironically, on those occasions that the movements were not detected by the sensors, there was significant apnea or inspiratory breath hold while completing the instruction (task), and the length of which appeared to be directly related to the amount of mental effort they were employing to complete the task requested ‘secretively and covertly’. In essence, they were trying so hard not to get caught moving by me (as instructed) they litterly forget to breathe.

(I gotta learn how to post charts- to this forum ! What an advantage for feed back.)

Bob


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sackett
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posted 01-10-2008 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
Barry,

if you and I both agree on the outcome, it is no longer an opinion of deception, it is fact!

Jim

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blalock
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posted 01-11-2008 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blalock   Click Here to Email blalock     Edit/Delete Message
I have 0 and -7 = DI.

Ben

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